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Aug 6, 2023 10:09 PM

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Adorelis said:
Sadly, this episode was victim of really poor translation. I don't know if you guys have English fansubs, but if you have, try and search one that is covering this anime.

 now let's clarify what happened in the end.

 Basically the reason they leaved the building, is because yayoi wanted Machida death. Why? for being involved in group assault (or rape), thankfully an spanish fansub took the time to translate the news.

https://imgur.com/c6bCOsK

 Then after that they returned to make the finger ghost eat Nagayama (the ghost eater), the reason is because Nagayama eated more than 100 ghosts, what was a perfect meal for the finger of the goddess (to make it stronger basically).

 Again, I hate than streaming platforms are prioritizing releasing episodes quickly with shitty translations rather than securing a correct translation.

 Also, another thing, Yayoi uses Gold fleak Sake for exorcism, this is the orient variant of Holy Water basically


Thanks for the clarification on what happened. I found it a bit annoying that HiDive put the suicide warning at the beginning and end of the episode but failed to provide a more accurate translation, especially as to why Yayoi wanted Machida dead (I mean if they put a suicide warning then they could've also put a "strong language or themes" warning too for the gang rape but those trigger warnings shouldn't be necessary on a R or 17+ rated show IMO).

Beyond that it was a decent episode and it looks like Yayoi has accepted Eiko's crazy side so that she can also peek into what Keitaro is up to.
Aug 6, 2023 10:11 PM

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CrimsonTome said:
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Interesting to see the practice of putting suicide prevention info in the episode, I've seen that used to legally protect networks in the US but that's the first I've seen it used for an anime.


They probably decided to do it due to seeing the repercussion that happened with Oshi No Ko.
I don't know, murder in shows doesn't really need a warning usually plus we had an episode with a bunch of dead baby ghosts attacking these guys...why would anyone be surprised in an Oshi no Ko way to this. Covering liability related to suicidal tendencies makes more sense.
Aug 6, 2023 10:14 PM

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Alfredo-Sauce said:
Adorelis said:
Sadly, this episode was victim of really poor translation. I don't know if you guys have English fansubs, but if you have, try and search one that is covering this anime.

 now let's clarify what happened in the end.

 Basically the reason they leaved the building, is because yayoi wanted Machida death. Why? for being involved in group assault (or rape), thankfully an spanish fansub took the time to translate the news.

https://imgur.com/c6bCOsK

 Then after that they returned to make the finger ghost eat Nagayama (the ghost eater), the reason is because Nagayama eated more than 100 ghosts, what was a perfect meal for the finger of the goddess (to make it stronger basically).

 Again, I hate than streaming platforms are prioritizing releasing episodes quickly with shitty translations rather than securing a correct translation.

 Also, another thing, Yayoi uses Gold fleak Sake for exorcism, this is the orient variant of Holy Water basically


Thanks for the clarification on what happened. I found it a bit annoying that HiDive put the suicide warning at the beginning and end of the episode but failed to provide a more accurate translation, especially as to why Yayoi wanted Machida dead (I mean if they put a suicide warning then they could've also put a "strong language or themes" warning too for the gang rape but those trigger warnings shouldn't be necessary on a R or 17+ rated show IMO).

Beyond that it was a decent episode and it looks like Yayoi has accepted Eiko's crazy side so that she can also peek into what Keitaro is up to.


I think they also put the warning due to this episode's case being based on a true story. There's indeed an apartment complex in Japan called takashimadaira housing complex that was a spot for over 130 suicides.
Aug 6, 2023 11:11 PM
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Man, I just realised how much better this anime would have been had Keitaro been just a SLIGHTLY less boring protagonist.

Bro is almost self-insert levels of boring.

Meanwhile, the girls are both pretty fun.

Hope the story eventually leans move heavily into that entire “he loves to fell fear” thing. He is going to be a lot more fun if he actually catches up to the other two in craziness.

It’s fun to watch psychos. Let him be a psycho too. Enough of a psycho to catch up to Eiko and scare the shit out of her.

Relationships are more fun when they’re at least slightly equal, after all. Even if “equal” means both being utterly insane.
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In the end, He didn't make a new friend... Poor guy...
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Aug 6, 2023 11:36 PM

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Eiko planted those monitoring tech on Keitaro just to watch and turn it into a sports event....and of course one way to spice up the story is him being abducted by the Suicide Club.

Aug 6, 2023 11:38 PM

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What a terrifying ghost/spirit leading people to suicide.
Aug 7, 2023 12:17 AM
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The episode was fine...

What I would highlight would be: have you seriously just witnessed a multi-homicide attempt and a suicide and you prefer to run away? What would happen if the police found out you were there?

A witness can easily say that he saw Keitaro getting into the vehicle with the others, that would leave him in a very bad light.

On the other hand, this is the second time this year that I see a warning about suicide in the anime, it's nothing that should be highlighted but I found it interesting ._.

Eiko literally harasses Keitaro and there is no greater relevance, I thought that some spirit forced her but apparently not, it is herself, simply because she likes him, bruh.
Aug 7, 2023 2:16 AM

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AdmiralAngeldust said:
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How did this guy manage to survive pre-Yayoi?
He kept himself locked up in his room for 2 years after his first curse encounter remember?
Its still surprising nothing knocked on his door or floated inside his house. o_o
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Aug 7, 2023 2:19 AM

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Eiko has made me WTF these past 2 episodes. 

Keitarou's awkward conversation at the club reminds me of similar experiences I've had meeting new people in the past. Yea our MC was awkward but he put some effort in trying to carry the conversation. The least the other 2 could do was put some effort in as well.
Aug 7, 2023 2:50 AM

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Keitaro's re-introduction into society and freedom from the curse that struck both him and Eiko, starts with the university's travel circle of Shore. That said, Eiko's on another level of yandere by stalking him with her friends through the glasses that she gave to him as a fashion statement, that irks Yayoi. A bit freakish to turn it into a comedic commentary, though Keitaro is trying his best to talk to people. The circle's president Nagayama takes care of him and drives him and other friends to his house, though he has a horror story to tell: the Suicide Club that at the center of it, lies descendants of a mass murderer, which the president is possessed by a ghost.

Eiko and Yayoi going to save Keitaro from Nagayama's house, it houses a spirit that possesses people bearing the same Nagayama name that carries the mass suicide generations down. While Yayoi deals with the spirit within Nagayama, he's not entirely innocent because of his intent to kill as Machida, the previous school murderer. They got lucky because Machida chose to hang people and not intoxicate them, thogugh the spirit lingers on by consuming other spirits, thereby killing himself to remain alive in the world.

A welcome party that's part of yet another supernatural ride, with his strong inclination to them, he'd learn better to live with them than run against them. Though them spying on him, thankfully that plot slided by.

What a gruelsome episode that is bread-and-butter of what we've come to expect of the show.
Aug 7, 2023 2:59 AM

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Ya know at least she admits that she is spying on him.
Aug 7, 2023 3:34 AM

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I love Yayoi's deadpan delivery so much. More effective than "screaming=funny" kind of humor in my book (we've got Eiko to cover this part but HanaKana still manages to keep it enjoyable for now).
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Aug 7, 2023 4:16 AM

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I knew Eiko had to have been possibly using GPS tracking on Keitaro from before when she knew where he was on a previous episode. That confirms it.

I actually got a chill when Keitaro started blacking out and showing this guy had drugged him and was grinning at him telling what he was planning

I suppose everyone else survived being hung because they werent dropped from very far not enough to easily break their necks so the people hanging were being strangled.


Embient said:
Oh dear god the warning at the start. I guess HIDIVE did this because there was some backlash about there not being a warning at the start of that Oshi no Ko episode. Personally, I'd rather there be no warning, but oh well.
I'm really warming up to the OP. Listen to the full version, it's good.
Eiko is really a full-blown yandere huh? nice
I'm thinking only Machida was posessed, but the shot at 12:29 makes me second-guess myself. I guess it's just for effect.
Why didn't Yayoi capture the spirit this time tho? Was it too strong?

Edit: I was confused by what Yayoi said at 19:45 at first so I checked the manga chapters and it appears there is a translation error? A bit earlier at 19:41 she says 戻る (modoru) - "(we're) going back" and this is how it was translated in the manga, but in the anime it's "We're leaving"? I'm assuming Yayoi captured the spirit off-screen because it is stated that the urban legend came to an end.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Maybe its one of those things they would show more in the next episode going backwards before continuing forward. It's kind of a weird way of doing things though.

Adorelis said:
Also, another thing, Yayoi uses Gold fleak Sake for exorcism, this is the orient variant of Holy Water basically

I could tell right away that was something but I couldnt figure it's origins. Do you have more details on that? Where does that originate? Is it just gold in general or gold flake sake specifically?
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Aug 7, 2023 4:55 AM

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I loved how things get even more twisted and dark after every episode, suicide is no joke and when I saw the warning at the start of the episode... I knew shit was going to hit the fan, but I'm glad that only the bad guy died this time and not some innocent people.
Aug 7, 2023 5:03 AM
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a woman´s intuition :D. sure :D

I actually like Eiko, she is definitely crazy but as long as her craziness doesn´t cross the line of hurting Keitaro. He also seems to kind of like her? I´d be scared if not though :D.
Aug 7, 2023 10:09 AM
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Yayoi-chan and Eiko spying on Keitaro was creepy and funny at the same time, also Kei-kun could be saved cuz of it jejeje.
At first I was questioning if Keitaro would always be saved by Yayoi whenever he gets himself in trouble, but now I feel like he's going to learn how to fight some ghosts alone, yey! :) wanna see the evolution of our MC so bad hashushua
Aug 7, 2023 10:53 AM

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Eiko can be really scary sometimes because of her obsession with her beloved Keitaro lmao, she even really put an effort to make him wear those "spy" glasses, she's beyond creepy
Aug 7, 2023 11:43 AM

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i appreciate the warning at the beginning! but actually it wasnt that strong of a 'suicide' trope anyway.
love this show. :)
Aug 7, 2023 12:07 PM

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GakutoDeathGlare said:
I can already anticipate the "it doesn't know what it wants to be" posts and reviews later on, how dare a show mash both comedy and horror/thriller together lol

I don't have set rules on what I like or dislike in tonal shifts, if I think about it, some things would come off as hypocritical, as in the same thing I enjoyed in this anime, I did not in another. I think it just comes down to pure feeling and emotion, how it resonates with me, how I depict the atmosphere of the series.

If someone said it comes across as odd and a little off putting in Dark Gathering, I would agree with you. Personally, something about it clicks and just works though. I am far more lenient in regards to comedy mind you.     

I like this post from @WatchTillTandava in the Zom100 episode discussion, another case of tonal shifts. Echoes a lot of my thoughts.


This is absolutely right, and also what I was thinking—the randomness is closer to real life. I guess what I could add is that Dark Gathering seems to me to be deliberately focusing on the relationship between real life and the dark paranormal, what we ourselves do with the darkness. The spookiest scene in the first episode was the last one, and it wasn't the ghost that was spooky, but Yayoi who was having the ghosts devour each other, and Eiko with her freaky gaslighting. In Dark Gathering the people can be dark too; in this way the show is getting back to the foundation of horror, to represent through the analogy of the paranormal the horrors we humans commit towards each other, and that the universe inflicts on us. 
Tear him for his bad verses, tear him for his bad verses!
Aug 7, 2023 12:09 PM
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Half of the episode has been calm, but it has really been deep and important (I'm sure what has happened now will have a lot to do with later). Very good animation of the parts of the spirits.
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Great Ep, Me personally i think if the show out the gate is presenting itself as a more adult oriented Horror anime It shouldn't need the warning tag. I get it just for lack of backlash but it does lose the surprise factor and turns it into just a waiting game to see what they actually do which tends to get people to over estimate the outcome and leave them disappointed. Not first time i seen the warning message though. Its becoming more common now. 
Aug 7, 2023 6:26 PM

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Well that was dark. Why didn't they capture that demon. Would make a good addition to the team.
Aug 7, 2023 6:56 PM
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Triggerfish124 said:
This anime seems to be trying to be dark and light humored at the same time and I don't think its working. The dark scenes are really great, I could do without the comedy acts the anime generates. It feels like there's less and less dark scenes, so I'd rate this as the worst episode yet. I don't really get how Yayoi "captures" these spirits but they just continue to do whatever they want. Like the goddess she fought makes sense ig, its like she took just a small portion of the goddess so its similar to Moonlit Fantasy's Tomoe and her fragments. But in this case they act like there will be no more murder suicides, so why was the ghost able to feed on Machida? Honestly doesnt make sense to me why Yayoi suddenly knew all this stuff about Machida but whatever.

There'll be less comedy scenes as the series progresses.

Yayoi forces the ghosts to possess the dolls, that's how she captures them. She also uses things like purifying salt and sake.

And Hidive made a mistranslation, she feeds Nagayama to the finger, that's why the suicides stop.
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InNeedOfAName said:
Triggerfish124 said:
This anime seems to be trying to be dark and light humored at the same time and I don't think its working. The dark scenes are really great, I could do without the comedy acts the anime generates. It feels like there's less and less dark scenes, so I'd rate this as the worst episode yet. I don't really get how Yayoi "captures" these spirits but they just continue to do whatever they want. Like the goddess she fought makes sense ig, its like she took just a small portion of the goddess so its similar to Moonlit Fantasy's Tomoe and her fragments. But in this case they act like there will be no more murder suicides, so why was the ghost able to feed on Machida? Honestly doesnt make sense to me why Yayoi suddenly knew all this stuff about Machida but whatever.

There'll be less comedy scenes as the series progresses.

Yayoi forces the ghosts to possess the dolls, that's how she captures them. She also uses things like purifying salt and sake.

And Hidive made a mistranslation, she feeds Nagayama to the finger, that's why the suicides stop.


Thanks for the clarification. I was pretty sure thats how it worked but with the goddess and Nagayama being exceptions I was confused lol
Aug 7, 2023 8:13 PM

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I love how this show can go from introvert comedy to horror in 10 seconds.

And this episode was certainly the scariest! Had some crazy drawings and actual possesion of humans over objects.

I'm just a little bit confused about what happend to the suicide spirit. Did Yayoi capture it like the others? I'm not quite sure how it was "defeated" really.

Perhaps there will be more on this next week. Alongside some spooky stories by the campsite becoming reality...

Aug 7, 2023 8:22 PM

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Yayoi is the best wing woman Eiko could have asked for lol... all she had to do to get yayoi on her side is for her to hear the ghosts.

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The more I think about it the less this made sense. I think it was just poorly written. I checked the manga too and everyone's actions dont make sense. They left to avoid the police, yet it's suggested Yayoi then turns around to go back which isn't shown in the manga or the anime and the subbers didnt understand what happened either so there is some bad subbing here to make it even more confusing. Why did Yayoi leave in the first place if she went through the effort to go back? Some people here tried to suggest Yayoi allowed him to die but that clearly isn't the case, because if she wanted him to die she wouldn't have tied him up. Why is it that the spirit that was possessing that guy went back in his body to only kill him but didn't just untie themselves and grab the other people that were still there and try once again to hang them? Maybe it didnt think it had time to do all that so only had the guy kill himself. Or maybe the guy just killed himself on his own so the police wouldnt arrest him for attempted murder and because he's done with life but then why have the spirit go back in him before doing that? In the manga Yayoi and Eiko only found out what the guy being possessed was accused of being involved in a group rape and it only says he was arrested under suspicion no mention of what any trial result was, which the anime changes order of events to make it so that Yayoi had known this information presumably while in the car arriving at this place and added in he was given a suspended sentence and added a motive of him being unable to reintegrate into society because people rejected him. This doesnt quite make sense. Why would Yayoi know his motive, I get she's smart but there isnt really anything implying that.

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I think they also put the warning due to this episode's case being based on a true story. There's indeed an apartment complex in Japan called takashimadaira housing complex that was a spot for over 130 suicides.

It's something they do in the US nowadays, im not sure if other countries do disclaimers like that. It may only have been added to the sub just like how the sub has an American suicide hotline number at the end of the episode which definitely wouldnt be in the Japanese raw. Seems you are right about it being a real place where a lot of suicides happened originally by jumping off the roof then more hangings after a barrier was put up so they definitely based this on that.
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Can someone explain to me how the fuck does the other students still alive? we get to see they're already hanging and seemingly dead by the time kei woke up and there's a lot of time passed when yayoi and eiko saved kei and because of that i assumed they're dead already. and also the villain hanged himself as well and died almost immediately but the other survive? like how?????
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Got to thank Eiko, If It wasn't for her glasses Keitarou would've been a goner....

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traed said:
The more I think about it the less this made sense. I think it was just poorly written. I checked the manga too and everyone's actions dont make sense. They left to avoid the police, yet it's suggested Yayoi then turns around to go back which isn't shown in the manga or the anime and the subbers didnt understand what happened either so there is some bad subbing here to make it even more confusing. Why did Yayoi leave in the first place if she went through the effort to go back? Some people here tried to suggest Yayoi allowed him to die but that clearly isn't the case, because if she wanted him to die she wouldn't have tied him up. Why is it that the spirit that was possessing that guy went back in his body to only kill him but didn't just untie themselves and grab the other people that were still there and try once again to hang them? Maybe it didnt think it had time to do all that so only had the guy kill himself. Or maybe the guy just killed himself on his own so the police wouldnt arrest him for attempted murder and because he's done with life but then why have the spirit go back in him before doing that? In the manga Yayoi and Eiko only found out what the guy being possessed was accused of being involved in a group rape and it only says he was arrested under suspicion no mention of what any trial result was, which the anime changes order of events to make it so that Yayoi had known this information presumably while in the car arriving at this place and added in he was given a suspended sentence and added a motive of him being unable to reintegrate into society because people rejected him. This doesnt quite make sense. Why would Yayoi know his motive, I get she's smart but there isnt really anything implying that.

CrimsonTome said:
 
I think they also put the warning due to this episode's case being based on a true story. There's indeed an apartment complex in Japan called takashimadaira housing complex that was a spot for over 130 suicides.

It's something they do in the US nowadays, im not sure if other countries do disclaimers like that. It may only have been added to the sub just like how the sub has an American suicide hotline number at the end of the episode which definitely wouldnt be in the Japanese raw. Seems you are right about it being a real place where a lot of suicides happened originally by jumping off the roof then more hangings after a barrier was put up so they definitely based this on that.


The way I understood what happened in the episode/chapter, was that Nagayama was considerably weakened by the purifying sake and since he was discovered, made Machida kill himself so that he could get enough energy for a couple more days and then re-start the mass "suicides". My interpretation of why Yayoi ran with Eiko and Keitarou first and then came back is that they felt the spike in energy Nagayama had when he was eating Machida, and she realized that he was powerful enough to make god's finger considerably stronger, that and the fact that Eiko and Keitarou don't possess the physical prowness she has, so it would be better to take them out of the apartment complex and then return alone to put an end to Nagayama since she could easily go back and forth before the police arrived. At least that's how I understood things went by based on what was said in the chapter.

Also, all the locations(or majority of them) in the anime/manga are real. So it's fun trying to spot or discover which ones they're based on and if there's an actual legend surrounding them.
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traed said:
The more I think about it the less this made sense. I think it was just poorly written. I checked the manga too and everyone's actions dont make sense. They left to avoid the police, yet it's suggested Yayoi then turns around to go back which isn't shown in the manga or the anime and the subbers didnt understand what happened either so there is some bad subbing here to make it even more confusing. Why did Yayoi leave in the first place if she went through the effort to go back? Some people here tried to suggest Yayoi allowed him to die but that clearly isn't the case, because if she wanted him to die she wouldn't have tied him up. Why is it that the spirit that was possessing that guy went back in his body to only kill him but didn't just untie themselves and grab the other people that were still there and try once again to hang them? Maybe it didnt think it had time to do all that so only had the guy kill himself. Or maybe the guy just killed himself on his own so the police wouldnt arrest him for attempted murder and because he's done with life but then why have the spirit go back in him before doing that? In the manga Yayoi and Eiko only found out what the guy being possessed was accused of being involved in a group rape and it only says he was arrested under suspicion no mention of what any trial result was, which the anime changes order of events to make it so that Yayoi had known this information presumably while in the car arriving at this place and added in he was given a suspended sentence and added a motive of him being unable to reintegrate into society because people rejected him. This doesnt quite make sense. Why would Yayoi know his motive, I get she's smart but there isnt really anything implying that.

CrimsonTome said:
 
I think they also put the warning due to this episode's case being based on a true story. There's indeed an apartment complex in Japan called takashimadaira housing complex that was a spot for over 130 suicides.

It's something they do in the US nowadays, im not sure if other countries do disclaimers like that. It may only have been added to the sub just like how the sub has an American suicide hotline number at the end of the episode which definitely wouldnt be in the Japanese raw. Seems you are right about it being a real place where a lot of suicides happened originally by jumping off the roof then more hangings after a barrier was put up so they definitely based this on that. 
The animes been adding some weird filler shit to the series to padd out the episodes they seem to be trying to do 1 chapter per episode which hopefully they stop doing this next episode since it's where the series stops being episodic ghost of the week. With longer arcs.
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Even tho the episode was dark with all the suicide stuff, Yayoi's jokes are still funny. The way she does her things always surprise me. And now it explains how Eiko was able to track him before.
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w0w! that's a lot of Ads! from start to finish, but not complaining because "that" is a very serious matter...you know....
5/5.


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Dark Gathering where the main character's best friend is a creepy Yandere stalker type while his sidekick is a girl boss third grader with a 9k IQ. This show is great by the way and love the balance of humor and horror. This show pulls them off super well.
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Adorelis said:
Sadly, this episode was victim of really poor translation. I don't know if you guys have English fansubs, but if you have, try and search one that is covering this anime.

 now let's clarify what happened in the end.

 Basically the reason they leaved the building, is because yayoi wanted Machida death. Why? for being involved in group assault (or rape), thankfully an spanish fansub took the time to translate the news.

https://imgur.com/c6bCOsK

 Then after that they returned to make the finger ghost eat Nagayama (the ghost eater), the reason is because Nagayama eated more than 100 ghosts, what was a perfect meal for the finger of the goddess (to make it stronger basically).

 Again, I hate than streaming platforms are prioritizing releasing episodes quickly with shitty translations rather than securing a correct translation.

 Also, another thing, Yayoi uses Gold fleak Sake for exorcism, this is the orient variant of Holy Water basically

Not really a translation error as the anime just outright changed it. It's more of an anime changing what was mention in the manga if anything. You are only right about the leaving angle as someone else pointed that out. But let's stop disrespecting creators when they make changes to the source material instead of blaming it on the translation. I wouldn't be shock if OLM told Hidive to do that.
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traed said:
The more I think about it the less this made sense. I think it was just poorly written. I checked the manga too and everyone's actions dont make sense. They left to avoid the police, yet it's suggested Yayoi then turns around to go back which isn't shown in the manga or the anime and the subbers didnt understand what happened either so there is some bad subbing here to make it even more confusing. Why did Yayoi leave in the first place if she went through the effort to go back? Some people here tried to suggest Yayoi allowed him to die but that clearly isn't the case, because if she wanted him to die she wouldn't have tied him up. Why is it that the spirit that was possessing that guy went back in his body to only kill him but didn't just untie themselves and grab the other people that were still there and try once again to hang them? Maybe it didnt think it had time to do all that so only had the guy kill himself. Or maybe the guy just killed himself on his own so the police wouldnt arrest him for attempted murder and because he's done with life but then why have the spirit go back in him before doing that? In the manga Yayoi and Eiko only found out what the guy being possessed was accused of being involved in a group rape and it only says he was arrested under suspicion no mention of what any trial result was, which the anime changes order of events to make it so that Yayoi had known this information presumably while in the car arriving at this place and added in he was given a suspended sentence and added a motive of him being unable to reintegrate into society because people rejected him. This doesnt quite make sense. Why would Yayoi know his motive, I get she's smart but there isnt really anything implying that.

CrimsonTome said:
 
I think they also put the warning due to this episode's case being based on a true story. There's indeed an apartment complex in Japan called takashimadaira housing complex that was a spot for over 130 suicides.

It's something they do in the US nowadays, im not sure if other countries do disclaimers like that. It may only have been added to the sub just like how the sub has an American suicide hotline number at the end of the episode which definitely wouldnt be in the Japanese raw. Seems you are right about it being a real place where a lot of suicides happened originally by jumping off the roof then more hangings after a barrier was put up so they definitely based this on that.

 I agree that this chapter is a little too confusing in it's intention, my guess is probably a rushed chapter, maybe the author didn't have enough time to give it the chapter proper care and the anime tried it's best to fix it.

but what we know so far is
-Yayoi wants to feed her finger of the godess and Nagayama is the perfect meal.

the sequence of events goes like this so far.
They free the students>call the police> wait for Nagayama to kill Machida > go back and make the finger eat Nagayama

 why they call the police first?
 
 I would dare say to press Nagayama into killing only Machida, because setting the ropes and lifting the death weigh of unconscious students would take a ton of time. Also, I would give it more deep guess and say they called it quickly for the students sake. Even if hanging from low height takes 20 minutes to kill, your brain is not receiving blood and oxygen , that's something serious and needs inmmediate assistance.

As for why Yayoi decides to do this. Remember that she said she would do anything (including questionable choices) to defeat the ghost that took her mother away.

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I feel I'm loosing interest in this anime week by week, I'll bear with it for a little longer to see if it improves.
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Knave_ said:
I feel I'm loosing interest in this anime week by week, I'll bear with it for a little longer to see if it improves.


You can always go to the manga and read a couple chapters ahead to see if it keeps you interested. Personally, I would say that we're in the weakest part of the series. It gets a lot better in my opinion(and darker too).
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CrimsonTome said:
The way I understood what happened in the episode/chapter, was that Nagayama was considerably weakened by the purifying sake and since he was discovered, made Machida kill himself so that he could get enough energy for a couple more days and then re-start the mass "suicides". My interpretation of why Yayoi ran with Eiko and Keitarou first and then came back is that they felt the spike in energy Nagayama had when he was eating Machida, and she realized that he was powerful enough to make god's finger considerably stronger, that and the fact that Eiko and Keitarou don't possess the physical prowness she has, so it would be better to take them out of the apartment complex and then return alone to put an end to Nagayama since she could easily go back and forth before the police arrived. At least that's how I understood things went by based on what was said in the chapter.

Also, all the locations(or majority of them) in the anime/manga are real. So it's fun trying to spot or discover which ones they're based on and if there's an actual legend surrounding them.

Hm it did show Nagayama have a belly full of ghosts so I dont think it was that weakened maybe just temporarily weakened.

Yeah though Im not too familiar with the reportedly haunted locations in Japan so it's hard to spot. In the US we have our own mysterious suicide and murder spot the Cecil Hotel.

GrimAtrament said:
The animes been adding some weird filler shit to the series to padd out the episodes they seem to be trying to do 1 chapter per episode which hopefully they stop doing this next episode since it's where the series stops being episodic ghost of the week. With longer arcs.

I haven't noticed much change before this point but maybe that's because Im looking anime then manga instead of manga then anime.

Adorelis said:
 I agree that this chapter is a little too confusing in it's intention, my guess is probably a rushed chapter, maybe the author didn't have enough time to give it the chapter proper care and the anime tried it's best to fix it.

but what we know so far is
-Yayoi wants to feed her finger of the godess and Nagayama is the perfect meal.

the sequence of events goes like this so far.
They free the students>call the police> wait for Nagayama to kill Machida > go back and make the finger eat Nagayama

 why they call the police first?
 
 I would dare say to press Nagayama into killing only Machida, because setting the ropes and lifting the death weigh of unconscious students would take a ton of time. Also, I would give it more deep guess and say they called it quickly for the students sake. Even if hanging from low height takes 20 minutes to kill, your brain is not receiving blood and oxygen , that's something serious and needs inmmediate assistance.

As for why Yayoi decides to do this. Remember that she said she would do anything (including questionable choices) to defeat the ghost that took her mother away.

Yes, it could have been a deadline thing with the manga. It seemed like the last panel where they show Yayoi and Eiko looking at a year old news clip about Machida after events was added last minute to try to explain why he was like the ghost but it was left pretty open to interpretation from it only being a news of his arrest and suspicion. The anime changing the timeline seemed like an attempt to make things make more sense but it failed to do that especially since they didnt show Yayoi finding this info in the car, we only have to assume that's what occurred off screen. I didnt get the impression Yayoi is that malicious, if she was she would lure people to these ghosts to be killed and consumed but rather has seemed interested in saving people in her flat affect way. In Japan their emergency number is actually two numbers one for police and one for paramedics. Im thinking maybe Machida becoming the 100th victim is what made Yayoi go back. I cant recall but i think something was mentioned about 100 in a previous episode. Though the manga scanlation i saw is also oddly contradicting, wasnt he the club president? Yayoi said he died and was eaten but it said the president narrowly escaped death and may be disabled. Wtf?

Then the subbers screwed up. When Yayoi was talking about Nagayama having eaten 100 they thought she was talking about the goddess so it said "she" when Nagayama appears to have been a man from what was shown. I could understand the mistake, Japanese don't use pronouns very often.
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CrimsonTome said:
The way I understood what happened in the episode/chapter, was that Nagayama was considerably weakened by the purifying sake and since he was discovered, made Machida kill himself so that he could get enough energy for a couple more days and then re-start the mass "suicides". My interpretation of why Yayoi ran with Eiko and Keitarou first and then came back is that they felt the spike in energy Nagayama had when he was eating Machida, and she realized that he was powerful enough to make god's finger considerably stronger, that and the fact that Eiko and Keitarou don't possess the physical prowness she has, so it would be better to take them out of the apartment complex and then return alone to put an end to Nagayama since she could easily go back and forth before the police arrived. At least that's how I understood things went by based on what was said in the chapter.

Also, all the locations(or majority of them) in the anime/manga are real. So it's fun trying to spot or discover which ones they're based on and if there's an actual legend surrounding them.

Hm it did show Nagayama have a belly full of ghosts so I dont think it was that weakened maybe just temporarily weakened.

Yeah though Im not too familiar with the reportedly haunted locations in Japan so it's hard to spot. In the US we have our own mysterious suicide and murder spot the Cecil Hotel.

GrimAtrament said:
The animes been adding some weird filler shit to the series to padd out the episodes they seem to be trying to do 1 chapter per episode which hopefully they stop doing this next episode since it's where the series stops being episodic ghost of the week. With longer arcs.

I haven't noticed much change before this point but maybe that's because Im looking anime then manga instead of manga then anime.

Adorelis said:
 I agree that this chapter is a little too confusing in it's intention, my guess is probably a rushed chapter, maybe the author didn't have enough time to give it the chapter proper care and the anime tried it's best to fix it.

but what we know so far is
-Yayoi wants to feed her finger of the godess and Nagayama is the perfect meal.

the sequence of events goes like this so far.
They free the students>call the police> wait for Nagayama to kill Machida > go back and make the finger eat Nagayama

 why they call the police first?
 
 I would dare say to press Nagayama into killing only Machida, because setting the ropes and lifting the death weigh of unconscious students would take a ton of time. Also, I would give it more deep guess and say they called it quickly for the students sake. Even if hanging from low height takes 20 minutes to kill, your brain is not receiving blood and oxygen , that's something serious and needs inmmediate assistance.

As for why Yayoi decides to do this. Remember that she said she would do anything (including questionable choices) to defeat the ghost that took her mother away.

Yes, it could have been a deadline thing with the manga. It seemed like the last panel where they show Yayoi and Eiko looking at a year old news clip about Machida after events was added last minute to try to explain why he was like the ghost but it was left pretty open to interpretation from it only being a news of his arrest and suspicion. The anime changing the timeline seemed like an attempt to make things make more sense but it failed to do that especially since they didnt show Yayoi finding this info in the car, we only have to assume that's what occurred off screen. I didnt get the impression Yayoi is that malicious, if she was she would lure people to these ghosts to be killed and consumed but rather has seemed interested in saving people in her flat affect way. In Japan their emergency number is actually two numbers one for police and one for paramedics. Im thinking maybe Machida becoming the 100th victim is what made Yayoi go back. I cant recall but i think something was mentioned about 100 in a previous episode. Though the manga scanlation i saw is also oddly contradicting, wasnt he the club president? Yayoi said he died and was eaten but it said the president narrowly escaped death and may be disabled. Wtf?

Then the subbers screwed up. When Yayoi was talking about Nagayama having eaten 100 they thought she was talking about the goddess so it said "she" when Nagayama appears to have been a man from what was shown. I could understand the mistake, Japanese don't use pronouns very often.


Iirc, manga translations were machine translated (at least for the first couple chapters), so I think it would be better to take a look on the official translations by Viz for us to compare what is different.
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Keitaro was saved from another ghost by the combined efforts of Yayoi and Eiko.
 
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LilShorky said:
Can someone explain to me how the fuck does the other students still alive? we get to see they're already hanging and seemingly dead by the time kei woke up and there's a lot of time passed when yayoi and eiko saved kei and because of that i assumed they're dead already. and also the villain hanged himself as well and died almost immediately but the other survive? like how?????
Maybe Author or animators didn't want to commit to that much death i guess or they all needed to die at same time so spirit could catch them all at once quickly. Bad guy probably died faster because the spirit just was quicker with the kill by force instead of just the hanging. Would have been interesting if they all died and how that would effect things moving forward 
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Hmm, I guess it worked out with the spy glasses, otherwise Keitaro would've been a goner along with the other students. Now I want to see all the gadgets Eiko has planted on Keitaro to spy/track him. Man, Yayoi really saved Eiko's ass during the drive home with the "woman's intuition" answer
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LilShorky said:
Can someone explain to me how the fuck does the other students still alive? we get to see they're already hanging and seemingly dead by the time kei woke up and there's a lot of time passed when yayoi and eiko saved kei and because of that i assumed they're dead already. and also the villain hanged himself as well and died almost immediately but the other survive? like how?????
They're not already dead when Kei wakes up but seem to be salivating from the mouth and struggling for breath. This implies that while the method of killing was hanging that, at least for them, it wasn't a quick drop from a sufficient height to swiftly break the neck, but a slow and prolonged strangulation. Then they passed out from lack of oxygen. Yet it still wouldn't surprise me in that situation for some or all of them to have brain damage afterward which can start to occur within minutes. However, they probably won't get into that since they're no-name-type irrelevant side characters and the series isn't that in-depth.
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LilShorky said:
Can someone explain to me how the fuck does the other students still alive? we get to see they're already hanging and seemingly dead by the time kei woke up and there's a lot of time passed when yayoi and eiko saved kei and because of that i assumed they're dead already. and also the villain hanged himself as well and died almost immediately but the other survive? like how?????

It was about 6 minutes roughly I think. So only slightly longer than the time it takes for someone to die of strangulation. It only takes about 10 seconds to lose consciousness but around 5 minutes to die. So that part isn't that far out of possibility Even if we assumed it was happening real time not skipping between scenes happening same time so it may have been more like 3or 4 minutes. That part with Machida hanging himself (or Nagayama hanging him) isnt very clear .

CrimsonTome said:
Iirc, manga translations were machine translated (at least for the first couple chapters), so I think it would be better to take a look on the official translations by Viz for us to compare what is different.

This really gets on my nerves how confusingly vague this chapter and episode is lol
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The one time where being a yandere proved useful to the MC. For now, at least she's not the completely unhinged yandere but time will tell.
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Not a bad episode, but I still don’t really like any of main characters aside from Kei.
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humor and creepiness are balanced perfectly. favorite episode so far!
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Just when you think Keitarou is going to be able to try and make some friends on a night out it goes horribly wrong.
At this point he should just be expecting something bad to happen.
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